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Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:29 pm
by alasano
Can this issue with the controller, as pictured when it's burnt out, be fixed without replacing the entire controller?

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:12 pm
by Sc00tr
I’m not seeing a picture of you intended to include one, but if your soldering skills are good and depending on the part that’s burned out then yes you can in theory replace it without replacing the whole controller.

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:54 pm
by alasano
Sc00tr wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:12 pm
I’m not seeing a picture of you intended to include one, but if your soldering skills are good and depending on the part that’s burned out then yes you can in theory replace it without replacing the whole controller.
Hey @Sc00tr you're correct, sorry about that I didn't have a picture yet as I had not taken it out. It's definitely burnt, here's a picture maybe you can give me your opinion on whether it can be repaired. (Soldering skills are a solid 2/10). It's where one of the phase connectors connects on the other side I believe. Not sure why it ended up happening as I was rolling on a flat surface.

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Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:15 am
by GeForceGTX
Swemike wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:34 pm
Hi,

I had 90% of charge on my scooter when I was breaking hard going downhill. After that the motor seems to be broken, it won't run anymore, and the front wheel don't rotate as easy as before. No errormessages or anything else that indicates that something is wrong. Anyone here who had this problem, or suggestions on how to fix it? I just contacted MI Store, waiting for heir reply.

So, for you who got this scooter, don't break running downhill :shock:

May I ask what break did you use? the brake from your handlebar or the foot brake?

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:19 pm
by Sc00tr
Ive seen a few blow up from full charge using regenerative braking, I’m assuming it is the handle break rather than the foot brake.
GeForceGTX wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:15 am
Swemike wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:34 pm
Hi,

I had 90% of charge on my scooter when I was breaking hard going downhill. After that the motor seems to be broken, it won't run anymore, and the front wheel don't rotate as easy as before. No errormessages or anything else that indicates that something is wrong. Anyone here who had this problem, or suggestions on how to fix it? I just contacted MI Store, waiting for heir reply.

So, for you who got this scooter, don't break running downhill :shock:

May I ask what break did you use? the brake from your handlebar or the foot brake?

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:47 pm
by GeForceGTX
Sc00tr wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:19 pm
Ive seen a few blow up from full charge using regenerative braking, I’m assuming it is the handle break rather than the foot brake.
GeForceGTX wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:15 am
Swemike wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:34 pm
Hi,

I had 90% of charge on my scooter when I was breaking hard going downhill. After that the motor seems to be broken, it won't run anymore, and the front wheel don't rotate as easy as before. No errormessages or anything else that indicates that something is wrong. Anyone here who had this problem, or suggestions on how to fix it? I just contacted MI Store, waiting for heir reply.

So, for you who got this scooter, don't break running downhill :shock:

May I ask what break did you use? the brake from your handlebar or the foot brake?

but wait, as far as i know, theres no foot brake in PRO version? because in my unit i have only handle break.

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:15 am
by Sc00tr
GeForceGTX wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:47 pm
but wait, as far as i know, theres no foot brake in PRO version? because in my unit i have only handle break.
I am mistaken, I thought this was discussing a ninebot es scooter for some reason, ignore my response :lol:

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:42 am
by Mattr567
tronixcity wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:17 am
HAd a customer just now.. his m365 pro motor is dead. mainboard is still turns on and all.. since I I do not have motor available for pro. he just replaced it with normal m365 motor.

longer range :-)


cheers
The mainboard will still turn on when it fries, shows mileage, etc. When you press the throttle though the scooter auto shuts off. I had the same experience, but I had a short in my motor wiring as I wasn't braking nor going downhill when mine let go (also really modded).

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When this condition occurs, its basically never the motor ever.
Sc00tr wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:12 pm
I’m not seeing a picture of you intended to include one, but if your soldering skills are good and depending on the part that’s burned out then yes you can in theory replace it without replacing the whole controller.
I tried this when mine died, I'm pretty good at soldering and I verified my connections were solid and not touching where it shouldn't. Mine was cooked enough where I added little jumper wires as you can see. It changed nothing and I had to replace the controller. Clearly when this happens it burns another component on the board up. At that point not worth fixing.

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The thick solder is me trying to reinforce everything lol. A bit ugly but 100% functional.

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:22 pm
by alasano
Mattr567 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:42 am
tronixcity wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:17 am
HAd a customer just now.. his m365 pro motor is dead. mainboard is still turns on and all.. since I I do not have motor available for pro. he just replaced it with normal m365 motor.

longer range :-)


cheers
The mainboard will still turn on when it fries, shows mileage, etc. When you press the throttle though the scooter auto shuts off. I had the same experience, but I had a short in my motor wiring as I wasn't braking nor going downhill when mine let go (also really modded).

Image

When this condition occurs, its basically never the motor ever.
Sc00tr wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:12 pm
I’m not seeing a picture of you intended to include one, but if your soldering skills are good and depending on the part that’s burned out then yes you can in theory replace it without replacing the whole controller.
I tried this when mine died, I'm pretty good at soldering and I verified my connections were solid and not touching where it shouldn't. Mine was cooked enough where I added little jumper wires as you can see. It changed nothing and I had to replace the controller. Clearly when this happens it burns another component on the board up. At that point not worth fixing.

Image

The thick solder is me trying to reinforce everything lol. A bit ugly but 100% functional.
Is your second picture your replacement board which you then reinforced with extra solder? What did you about the transparent epoxy coating on top of the board? Or is that the old one which you tried to fix?

Re: Broken motor on a M365 Pro after just 41 km of use

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:42 am
by Mattr567
alasano wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:22 pm
Is your second picture your replacement board which you then reinforced with extra solder? What did you about the transparent epoxy coating on top of the board? Or is that the old one which you tried to fix?
Old one. When they cook there really is no saving them. Just take note of the old mileage and get a new one.