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Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:06 pm
by John not doe
Hi everyone.

I started my conversion last week but got myself a little problem.

I got this kit from amazon https://www.amazon.fr/%C3%A9lectrique-B ... B07FYZ3V93

I did all the right connexions using connectors (for the moment I don't want to solder in case I need to change the product).

I did param the P0 to P20 according to things read here (max amp matching the battery, 30 magnets, 8 inch diameter, etc...) but whenever I use the throttle and get to 25 km/h for around 5seconds the controller shuts down. :?
And it can't be powered up before a minute.

No problem when I'm on mode 1 or 2 limited to 18 km/h (on the air, not even driving).

Any idea of what it could be? And what I should do?

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:35 am
by electricool
John not doe wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:06 pm
Hi everyone.

I started my conversion last week but got myself a little problem.

I got this kit from amazon https://www.amazon.fr/%C3%A9lectrique-B ... B07FYZ3V93

I did all the right connexions using connectors (for the moment I don't want to solder in case I need to change the product).

I did param the P0 to P20 according to things read here (max amp matching the battery, 30 magnets, 8 inch diameter, etc...) but whenever I use the throttle and get to 25 km/h for around 5seconds the controller shuts down. :?
And it can't be powered up before a minute.

No problem when I'm on mode 1 or 2 limited to 18 km/h (on the air, not even driving).

Any idea of what it could be? And what I should do?
Salut
il me semble que ton BMS se mette en protection, il faut faire un bypass, un contributeur sur le forum à fait une vidéo dessus si on parle bien du même model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2yDxYpJY9Y

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:07 am
by GHOSTBIRD408
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:46 pm
wonderley wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:12 pm
rosavanwinkle wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:30 am
I hope this helps and if questions i'll still be here to answer them for a while. when the moneys in for a new controller i will post a new guide

Hey thanks! It looks like the picture for #2 that was loaded is the same as the picture in number one?
Thanks for noticing i did not,edited the post should be fine now! ^^
let me buy u a beer!

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:55 am
by John not doe
electricool wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:35 am
John not doe wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:06 pm
Hi everyone.

I started my conversion last week but got myself a little problem.

I got this kit from amazon https://www.amazon.fr/%C3%A9lectrique-B ... B07FYZ3V93

I did all the right connexions using connectors (for the moment I don't want to solder in case I need to change the product).

I did param the P0 to P20 according to things read here (max amp matching the battery, 30 magnets, 8 inch diameter, etc...) but whenever I use the throttle and get to 25 km/h for around 5seconds the controller shuts down. :?
And it can't be powered up before a minute.

No problem when I'm on mode 1 or 2 limited to 18 km/h (on the air, not even driving).

Any idea of what it could be? And what I should do?
Salut
il me semble que ton BMS se mette en protection, il faut faire un bypass, un contributeur sur le forum à fait une vidéo dessus si on parle bien du même model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2yDxYpJY9Y
Hey, thanks for the answer. I'm not sure we have the same model though. Here are 2 pics :

Image
Image

I didn't plan on dismantling the battery at first, but if its a necessity.... Well, i'll do it.

Edit :

Tried to remove the battery BUT impossible to dismantle the back wheel 😭... The axle is so tight 🙄

So if there is a solution not needing to do it (maybe using the 3 cables coming from the bms? ) I'd be 😍

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm
by electricool
Hi
according to the pictures you work on a DOOT, and I can guarantee you that your problem comes from the BMS of the battery, if you have another battery in 36v, do a test
you must extract the batteire to be able to bypass the (-) wire of the battery
uses W40 to dismount the wheel

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:04 pm
by Ivan14
Will this controller from eBay work? It’s 36v 250w/350w

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3397659228

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:18 pm
by jamiesj410
How many miles are u guys getting? I only got 10 miles on a full charge.

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:34 am
by John not doe
electricool wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm
Hi
according to the pictures you work on a DOOT, and I can guarantee you that your problem comes from the BMS of the battery, if you have another battery in 36v, do a test
you must extract the batteire to be able to bypass the (-) wire of the battery
uses W40 to dismount the wheel
Thanks again,
Nice to know that after bypassing the BMS i'll have finished all the elctronic part and will only have to get it back together and paint it nicely :)


Will try with the WD40 ;)

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:54 pm
by rosavanwinkle
Ivan14 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:04 pm
Will this controller from eBay work? It’s 36v 250w/350w

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3397659228
That one should work,but i recommend getting it via amazon,their you will have more reliable warranty and service ^^

Re: BIRD ZERO ELECTISAN F350

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:13 pm
by Ivitohappy
Hi, I have finished the conversion and now I want to start with the lights. You know what the headlight and brake voltage are ?